Jon Patch

Friday, December 14th, 2007

Notes on FSX SP2

Filed under: FSX, Flight Simulation, Flightsim, SP2 — jonpatch @ 2:30 pm

SP2 has the same functionality as Acceleration, (without of course the additional aircraft and missions) according to Phil’s post.  The big tickets items are fixes to Multiplayer functionality and DX10 support, in a “Preview” mode.  Here’s some unofficial ups and downs for SP2.  Note that I have not confirmed all these issues myself, and I’ll add to the list as I recall, or am made aware of more issues.

Fixes (most of which are taken from this post of Phil’s)

  • DX10 support, “Preview” mode: legacy scenery may not work properly (Details here)
  • Some users report signifiantly improved performance, mine was about the same
  • flight list is alphabetized (yay!)
  • Com1 radio sync fixed in Shared Cockpit
  • Transponder Code update info now sent from inc/dec transponders (now reported as not fixed)
  • “random” spawn-in air problem fixed
  • direct connect now remembers last IP address
  • autogen batching is tweaked, resulting for some in increased performance.  This will help in areas where a lot of custom objects of the same material are authored and complements the SP1 batching work.
  • some non-textured materials for FS9 objects are now fixed, in particular FS9 AI aircraft that turned black at a distance will no longer do so
  • 8-core bug fix
  • 3G enabling FSX and Autogen memory use (see this thread)
  •  optimization
  • Exterior shadow quality improvements
  • optimization of terrain input/output for photo-scenery and “scenery load out of the zone” fixes to help reduce blurries
  • 737 and A321 night/taxi light fix with new models
  • raindrops in 2D cockpit
  • audio fix for sound card/USB to speakers/headphones on Vista
  • various internationalization fixes
  • saving undocked panels
  • multiplayer compatibility with Acceleration for free-flight

What doesn’t work as well as SP1:

  • FS9 objects with transparency may not display properly
  • Memory usage is increased, resulting in increased likelihood of out-of-memory errors (the dreaded OOMs)
  • Users report greatly increased incidence of flashing clouds.  See this fix from “Mike”:http://forums.avsim.net/dcboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=121&topic_id=434059&mesg_id=434059&page=

    Just be aware that after some further testing I’ve discovered two minor issues with it, which I’m still working on. Some global scenery objects refuse to respect their LODs and come in as max lod only, so fps can take a bit of a dive in places like seattle with all the port cranes. The other is that multiple layers of cumulus clouds don’t sort quite as well as before, not that they ever did haha.

  • See this thread on Acceleration/SP2 incompatibilities, particularly legacy aircraft

So some users may choose to stay with SP1.  Give it a shot, though. 

Note:

  • Ensure you have SP1 installed first before installing SP2.
  • Users of Acceleration already have everything that’s in SP2.  SP2 will not install on your system.
  • Users who may have made alterations to scenery and/or textures files (you may notice missing buildings or textures in default objects) should refresh their scenery library: from the Main Menu, choose Settings -> Scenery Library, then click OK.
  • Users of Vancouver+, Ultimate Terrain, Megascenery, VisualFlightUK and other addons which modify the terrain.cfg must run their respective repair/configuration functions after installing SP2.

Specific instructions :

  • Vancouver+ users click here
  • Victoria+ users click here
  • Ultimate Terrain users click here

22 Comments »

  1. Jon

    Do you know whether my CYVR displays okay with SP2? Secondly if I don’t like the performance with SP2 can I uninstall SP2?

    Thx
    Nigel

    Comment by Nigel Grant — Friday, December 14th, 2007 @ 5:41 pm

  2. Hi Nigel, I haven’t checked CYVR, but it’s easy enough to install SP2, and uninstall it if you don’t like it. Try doing a benchmark first at CYVR, you may see some improvement.

    Comment by jonpatch — Friday, December 14th, 2007 @ 6:37 pm

  3. Nigel, I dropped by CYVR, I don’t see any issues.

    Comment by jonpatch — Friday, December 14th, 2007 @ 6:55 pm

  4. Thx Jon, will give it a try. What’s your telephone number, could you pls e-mail me because I want to give you a call
    Nigel

    Comment by Nigel Grant — Friday, December 14th, 2007 @ 7:44 pm

  5. I applied SP2, then tested and saw that my default flight, Beaver floats at Victoria Terminal, was now standing on land.

    Reinstalled V+ (FSX) and now the plane is on water but the dock is gone! What am I missing?

    Comment by Alex Feldstein — Sunday, December 16th, 2007 @ 1:37 pm

  6. Any FSX patch will alter the terrain.cfg file. Run the Victoria+ repair function from the Start menu. If you have Vancouver+, choose Uninstall then Repair from the Start Menu. Both are under FSAddon.

    Comment by jonpatch — Sunday, December 16th, 2007 @ 3:35 pm

  7. Jon,

    How about the Kingair 2D panel problem? Specifically, the one where you roll your mouse pointer over various parts of the panel and the entire screen turns white.

    Comment by Bob K — Monday, December 17th, 2007 @ 9:07 am

  8. Hi Bob, I haven’t tracked specific problems with aircraft: is there nothing in the compatibility thread? http://forums.avsim.net/dcboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=121&topic_id=419490&mode=full

    Comment by jonpatch — Monday, December 17th, 2007 @ 9:12 am

  9. I was woundering if someone would be able to tell me if there is a difference between SP2/DX10 preview and a seperate patch for FSX and if so then aroun what time will the FSX DX10 patch be released. Because it says ” preview DX10″ and its really causing problems by making fps slower not loading properly even gettin blurry lines of taxiways/runways

    cheers

    Comment by Rohit Koul Gupta — Monday, December 17th, 2007 @ 9:21 pm

  10. Here are your options:
    1. Download and install SP2 (you must have SP1 first)
    or
    2. Purchase Acceleration (you won’t need SP2, Acceleration has everything that SP2 has)

    In both cases you will get the DX10 preview, which is all the DX10 capability that FSX has.

    Comment by jonpatch — Monday, December 17th, 2007 @ 9:42 pm

  11. I just wanted to know how to uninstall SP2 as they make my aircraft invisble at heathrow

    Cheers lewis

    Comment by lewis — Tuesday, December 18th, 2007 @ 9:40 am

  12. From the control panel, choose Add/Remove programs, and find Microsoft Flight Simulator X Service Pack 2. Remove that, and don’t panic when you see no FSX entries: press F5 to refresh and FSX should appear.

    Comment by jonpatch — Tuesday, December 18th, 2007 @ 9:48 am

  13. [...] SP2, unlike SP1 is not a must-have for everyone.  Some folks will appreciate some fixes, but some things that worked in SP1 are broken in SP2.  See this post. [...]

    Pingback by FSX SP2 available for download « Jon Patch — Tuesday, December 18th, 2007 @ 2:08 pm

  14. Thank you i was not sure where to look and when i did see microsoft flight simulator X service pack 2 i was not going to uninstall it. Just incase it took it all off but thank you for the information. I now know that it will only take SP2 off so i think I will uninstall it thanks for your help and time

    Lewis

    Comment by lewis — Wednesday, December 19th, 2007 @ 3:51 pm

  15. No worries, Lewis, thanks for stopping by.

    Comment by jonpatch — Wednesday, December 19th, 2007 @ 5:18 pm

  16. Jon

    Are you SURE that Transponder Code update info now sent from inc/dec transponders in SP2.

    I tried it today and it was NOT working.

    Geoff_D

    Comment by Geoff_D — Thursday, December 20th, 2007 @ 2:45 pm

  17. Hi Geoff, no I never tested it, was it not you that posted this was fixed?

    Comment by jonpatch — Thursday, December 20th, 2007 @ 4:07 pm

  18. Ah, so it looks like it’s fixed in Acceleration, but not SP2.

    Comment by jonpatch — Friday, December 21st, 2007 @ 6:11 pm

  19. Transponder Code update info sent from inc/dec transponders also does NOT work in XPACK RTM :(

    Looks like FSX is stuck for the next 2-3 years with disfunctional Transponders, unless someone comes up with a work-around.

    A simple 3rd party addon Simconnect application may be able to fix this, by detecting any INC/DEC of the transponder, then reading the whole transponder code, and therafter WRITING it back to the transponder.

    Comment by Geoff_D — Wednesday, December 26th, 2007 @ 8:42 am

  20. Roger that, Geoff, thanks for checking in.

    Comment by jonpatch — Wednesday, December 26th, 2007 @ 8:49 am

  21. Is it possible to uninstall SP2?

    Comment by Eric H — Tuesday, June 24th, 2008 @ 5:48 pm

  22. I believe so. In XP: Control Panel->Add/Remove Programs , ensure that the “show updates” is ticked, and you should see SP2 as a seperate entry. In Vista , in Control Panel->Programs and Features, click on “Show installed updates” on the left hand panel. Choose just the update to uninstall.

    No warranties offered if you have to reinstall FSX. ;)

    Comment by jonpatch — Tuesday, June 24th, 2008 @ 7:54 pm


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